{
"subject": "Re: RFC: ship block chain 1-74000 with release tarballs?",
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"body": "<div class=\"post\">Despite everything else said, the current next step is:<br/><div class=\"quoteheader\">Quote</div><div class=\"quote\">Someone should experiment with different Berkeley DB settings and see if there's something that makes the download substantially faster. If something substantial is discovered, then we can work out the particulars.<br/></div>In particular, I suspect that more read caching might help a lot.<br/><br/><div class=\"quoteheader\"><a href=\"https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1931.msg25017#msg25017\">Quote from: jgarzik on November 28, 2010, 02:33:29 AM</a></div><div class=\"quote\">Another new user on IRC, Linux this time, was downloading at a rate of 1 block every 4 seconds -- estimated total download time around 4 days.<br/></div>Then something more specific was wrong. That's not due to normal initial download time. Without more details, it can't be diagnosed. If it was due to slow download, did it speed up after 10-20 minutes when the next block broadcast should have made it switch to a faster source? debug.log might have clues. How fast is their Internet connection? Was it steadily slow, or just slow down at one point?<br/><br/><div class=\"quoteheader\">Quote</div><div class=\"quote\">We have the hashes for genesis block through block 74000 hardcoded (compiled) into bitcoin, so there's no reason why we shouldn't be able to automatically download a compressed zipfile of the block database from <i>anywhere</i>, unpack it, verify it, and start running.<br/></div>The 74000 checkpoint is not enough to protect you, and does nothing if the download is already past 74000. -checkblocks does more, but is still easily defeated. You still must trust the supplier of the zipfile.<br/><br/>If there was a \"verify it\" step, that would take as long as the current normal initial download, in which it is the indexing, not the data download, that is the bottleneck.<br/><br/><div class=\"quoteheader\"><a href=\"https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1931.msg25058#msg25058\">Quote from: jgarzik on November 28, 2010, 07:33:55 AM</a></div><div class=\"quote\">Presumably at some point there will be a lightweight client that only downloads block headers, but there will still be hundreds of thousands of those...<br/></div>80 bytes per header and no indexing work. Might take 1 minute.<br/><br/><div class=\"quoteheader\">Quote</div><div class=\"quote\">uncompressed data using a protocol (bitcoin P2P) that wasn't designed for bulk data transfer.<br/></div>The data is mostly hashes and keys and signatures that are uncompressible.<br/><br/>The speed of initial download is not a reflection of the bulk data transfer rate of the protocol. The gating factor is the indexing while it downloads.<br/><br/></div>"
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"source": {
"name": "Bitcoin Forum",
"url": "https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1931.msg25138#msg25138"
},
"date": "2010-11-28T17:13:01Z"
}